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    4118 all hydraulic PTO

    Is it possible to convert the 4118 to an electric clutch PTO? The mowers are scarce and pumps are expensive. Just an idea but I am not sure of stub out shafts and how much room is up front.

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    Well possible vs. practical?

    All the plumbing would need to be changed up to get out of the belt path ... the clutch itself would probably be the easy part.

    Brian

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    Compare the hydraulic system of the 4118https://manuals.casecoltingersoll.com/PartsManuals/Ingersoll%203118,%204116,%204118,%204120%20Parts%2 0Manual%208-3200_watermarked.pdf
    to the hydraulic system of a 4018PShttps://manuals.casecoltingersoll.com/PartsManuals/Ingersoll%203016PS,3018PS,%203020PS,%204016,%20401 6PS,%204018PS,%204020PS%20Parts%20Manual%208-3121_watermarked.pdf
    and you will see that everything in the hydraulic systems will need to be replaced to include the travel control valve, the rear PTO, the reservoir and the pump, big expensive job!
    The only favorable thing is that the P218 engine in your 4118 has the same length crankshaft as a P218 with an electric clutch which you will need along with a PTO switch and the correct wiring harness!

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    This would be the kind of room you would be dealing with.

    KIMG0100_1603031986619.jpg

    It's a great thought, would open up putting regular attachments on, and eliminate the Hydraulic motor issues.

    Rerouting the hydraulic lines seems possible but wouldn't be easy.

    Do you have a 4118 and are fighting the usual issues?

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    Do you really what to open up that can


    I think stay with the newer clutch would be way cheaper.
    Just saying.

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    Yours looks slightly different than mine up front, but all of that is on my 4118. Will have pictures of mine within a couple more weeks hopefully.

    Thanks for posting that picture.

    Bill

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    I have a 4020ps but was considering a 4118 tractor to purchase that has issues with the mower deck. I like the cooler in the front the way it use to be!

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    Sorry the picture is sideways.

    The bigger oil cooler takes up some room.

    Does the 4118 you're looking at have the usual loss of power and stalling under load issues.

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    I have only talked with owner and he sent photo's with the blades laying on top of the deck and problems with hydraulic leaks tractor non running at this time.

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    The All Hydraulic's are a different animal. Check it over good and know what you're getting into.

    I did a little looking at putting the clutch on, found some talk about it but no thread on actually doing it.

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