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    Hello folks

    Just picked up this Ingersoll 4016 that was my grandfatherís hadnít been used in at least two years. If I recall he ran into some issues with the battery dying when he was cutting and put it into his barn then had some dealer look at it. My dad bought him a Craftsman that summer and there it has sat until today.

    Well the hydraulic oil was completely empty after filling it it worked. Amp light still comes on it seems to be putting out something like 13.5v according to my tests. Not sure what the issue is with either. If the hydraulic oil is leaking itís pretty slow and Iím not sure how I would find out where.

    Anyone know what the vanguard is supposed to put out voltage wise?

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    Welcome 114
    Sorry to hear about your granddad
    Have you seen any oil leaking if not park it on some cardboard
    When you get time to check out our forum we have great info
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    Hello man114,

    Welcome to the CCI site, you will find a wealth of information here from the members as well as several dealers who can supply new OEM and aftermarket parts plus technical support.

    If you are measuring 13.5 volts DC at the battery when running it sounds like your charging system is functioning correctly. The amp light on the dash panel is driven by a voltage sensor and is not always an indication of charging system malfunction. Often the voltage sensor that turns the light on is the culprit, we do have them in stock under part number C31617.

    Here is a link to that item: https://www.casegardentractorparts.c...617sensor.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigman View Post
    Welcome 114
    Sorry to hear about your granddad
    Have you seen any oil leaking if not park it on some cardboard
    When you get time to check out our forum we have great info
    and even better members to try helping you out,
    so find the right section and ask away, ok.
    Enjoy your time here and thank you for joining our group.

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    Didn’t notice any oil leakage yet but it was largely empty so I filled it back up I’ll know more in the morning when it’s bright out.

    My grandfather enjoyed this tractor, it was always an argument between him and my dad about this or a John Deere and he had preferred his old Case so he bought the Ingersoll despite it being kind of expensive. I probably helped convince him of it because I told him he was the one who’d have to use it, not my dad.


    Quote Originally Posted by myerslawnandgarden View Post
    If you are measuring 13.5 volts DC at the battery when running it sounds like your charging system is functioning correctly. The amp light on the dash panel is driven by a voltage sensor and is not always an indication of charging system malfunction. Often the voltage sensor that turns the light on is the culprit, we do have them in stock under part number C31617.
    Yeah it was somewhere between 13.3 and 13.5 at the terminals. I can test it better tomorrow and run it longer.

    anyone know if you use longer oil filters on the vanguard of the same specs like I do on my non vanguard Briggs?

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    Hello man114,and welcome to the group

    If you have not found the manuals yet, Click on "Forum" in the black header above and scroll down to the "Technical Library". You will need the PIN (Serial)# to get the correct manuals.

    You said you filled the hydraulic oil, two questions. 1, How full? It should be 5-6" down from the top of the neck to allow for oil expansion as the oil heats up. 2, What oil did you put in it? These don't use hydraulic oil, instead 20w-40 is called for. Most of us use 15w-40 it is cheaper and easier to get.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordy View Post
    Hello man114,and welcome to the group

    If you have not found the manuals yet, Click on "Forum" in the black header above and scroll down to the "Technical Library". You will need the PIN (Serial)# to get the correct manuals.

    You said you filled the hydraulic oil, two questions. 1, How full? It should be 5-6" down from the top of the neck to allow for oil expansion as the oil heats up. 2, What oil did you put in it? These don't use hydraulic oil, instead 20w-40 is called for. Most of us use 15w-40 it is cheaper and easier to get.


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    Yeah I left it 5 inches down or so I read it somewhere when looking to see if they even made 20w-40. I was gonna order the oil for store pickup to save time and ran across a post about it. I just got cheap Traveller 15W-40 from tractor supply in case it has been a burst hose but the leak obviously wasn’t massive since I was able to drive it around for an hour.
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    Welcome aboard. I hope you find the forum informative and entertaining.

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    Hello & Welcome man114, Congrats on the 4016 (Great Machine) We are Glad to have you here with us & hope you enjoy this great site. We are all here to help. & we are just a phone call away. Take Care From Bill & Charlie at Barneveld Imp. 608-924-1662 (The Parts Guys) www.barneveldimp.com

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    Welcome man114 !!! Great to have you here. Congratulations on getting your grandfather's tractor an keeping it in the family. Please post some pics when you're able to.

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    Used it again to round up the leaves today, nothing of note to report issue wise, worked fine. The cap vent hole of the hydraulic oil was blocked which may have in some way caused the low fluid, didn’t appear to use any though in the last two days.

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